FM: You say “unlock the invisible.” What exactly do you mean by that?

Odile Laganier:

I mean what silently holds you back. It’s not necessarily dramatic. These are habits, family loyalties, inherited beliefs, protective mechanisms, unspoken things, fears, sometimes just a poor wiring with the world. Most people think they have a strategy problem. In reality, they have an unresolved inner conflict. You can’t truly steer your life if a part of you is still in survival mode.

FM: Many of your clients are “successful” on paper. Why do they still come to see you?

Odile Laganier:

Because external success doesn’t replace inner peace. You can tick all the boxes but not truly inhabit your life. You can be applauded but not aligned. You can be on the right path but not have the right energy. And when it shows, it’s too late. When it’s felt, that’s the right time to intervene.

FM: Concretely, how do you work?

Odile Laganier:

I work in a spiral. I don’t separate the psychological, cognitive, physical, relational, and strategic aspects. I make analysis converse with the unconscious, intention with the body, identity with the context. Transformation is never linear. It’s always a process of recomposition.

FM: Why did you create two distinct brands, Oui4Success and We4Success?

Odile Laganier:

Because you can’t fit everything into a single container. Oui is about the individual: the relationship to oneself, desire, internal functioning, the unconscious, healing. We is about the collective: mutual understanding, team leadership, structuring interactions. The two worlds communicate. You can’t have organizations that thrive if individuals are in survival mode, nor individuals who flourish in volatile collectives. I wanted to stop fragmenting what naturally belongs together.

FM: We see you working with Legos, hypnotherapy protocols, soft skills diagnostics, systemic approaches… It’s not common.

Odile Laganier:

Yes, and that’s a good thing. Humans are not one-dimensional, so why should the tools be? I never use anything just for decoration. Every tool is a different gateway to the same goal: making visible what is blocking growth and setting potential back in motion.

FM: What is the biggest misunderstanding about change?

Odile Laganier:

That it can be decided with the mind alone. Change is tolerated with the body, secured with emotions, and guided with the mind. If one of the three isn’t engaged, it won’t hold. That’s why so many transformations fail: they are thought through but not embodied.

FM